Most conversations about health today tend to circle around the same things: better diets, supplements, medications, maybe the latest wellness trend making rounds on social media.
But there’s another layer to all of this that doesn’t get talked about nearly as much. Something more basic. More foundational.
Light. Energy. And how the body actually responds to them.
In a recent episode of “A Healthy Point of View” podcast, Sam Tejada, CEO and Founder of Liquivida® sat down with Robby Besner, co-founder and Chief Science Officer of Therasage to unpack a topic that sounds simple on the surface, but gets surprisingly deep the more you sit with it: how light-based technologies, especially infrared, are being used to support healing in ways most people don’t fully understand yet.
And what stood out wasn’t just the science, it was how personal the whole thing was.
The Truth About Infrared Therapy, Detox, and Healing with Robby Besner | Ep. 133
It Didn’t Start as a Business. It Started at Home.
For Robby Besner, none of this began as a product idea or a company vision.
It started when his daughter got sick.
At 15, she was diagnosed with Lyme disease. What followed wasn’t a clean, linear treatment plan; it was complicated, exhausting, and honestly, overwhelming. Different doctors. Different opinions. A long list of medications. And very little coordination between any of it.
On paper, everything looked “advanced.” In reality, it felt fragmented.
That’s where things shifted for him.
Instead of asking, What’s the next treatment? He started asking something else:
What if the issue isn’t just the disease… but the environment inside the body?
That question changed everything.
Looking Beyond Symptoms
What he began noticing was a pattern of high toxicity, inflammation, fatigue, and brain fog. The kinds of symptoms that don’t always point neatly to one cause, but clearly show something deeper is off.
So instead of chasing each symptom individually, he focused on what might be driving all of them at once.
That’s what led him toward studying light, specifically, infrared light.
Not as a trend. Not as a gadget. But it is something the human body has always depended on.
Why Light Actually Matters
We don’t usually think of light as something the body needs in the same way it needs food or water. But the reality is, sunlight is made up of different frequencies, and a large part of it is invisible to us.
Infrared sits in that invisible range.
And according to Besner, it plays a much bigger role in how the body functions than most people realize.
We’re talking about effects like:
- Improving circulation
- Supporting oxygen delivery
- Helping cells repair themselves
- And importantly, helping the body release stored toxins
That last part is what caught his attention early on.
Because if toxins stay trapped in the body, they don’t just sit quietly; they contribute to inflammation, fatigue, and long-term health issues.
Infrared, in a way, helps “loosen things up” at a cellular level so the body can actually clear them out.
Detox Isn’t a One-Time Fix
There’s a tendency to think of detox as something you do for a week, juice cleanses, short programs, that sort of thing.
But that’s not really how the body works.
Detoxification is constant. It’s happening all the time, or at least, it’s supposed to be.
The problem is, modern life doesn’t exactly make that easy.
Processed food, environmental toxins, stress, and lack of movement, it all add up. And eventually, the body struggles to keep up.
This is where infrared therapy comes in.
By gently raising the body’s core temperature and increasing circulation, it creates conditions where:
- The body sweats more effectively
- Blood flow improves
- The immune system becomes more active
It’s not about forcing a detox. It’s about supporting the systems that already exist.
Not All Light Works the Same Way
One of the biggest misconceptions is that all light therapy is basically the same.
It’s not.
There are different parts of the infrared spectrum, and each one interacts with the body differently:
- Near infrared tends to work closer to the surface, supporting skin health, circulation, and collagen
- Mid infrared sits somewhere in between
- Far infrared goes deeper, often linked to detox and internal processes
When you combine them, you get something closer to how sunlight naturally behaves. That’s what people refer to as “full spectrum.”
And that idea, copying nature instead of trying to outdo it, is a recurring theme in Besner’s approach.
The Bigger Issue: We’ve Drifted from Nature
If you zoom out for a second, a lot of this starts to make more sense.
We live very differently now compared to even a couple of generations ago.
- Most of our time is spent indoors
- We’re exposed to artificial light far more than natural light
- We rarely make direct contact with the ground
- And our environments are filled with constant digital and electromagnetic noise
None of this is inherently “bad,” but it does create a gap between how the body evolved and how we actually live.
Over time, that gap shows up as fatigue, poor sleep, low energy, and other issues people often just accept as normal.
Using Technology to Close That Gap
What’s interesting here is that the solution isn’t to reject technology altogether.
It’s to use it differently.
Besner’s work is centered around building tools that bring those natural elements, like infrared light, back into everyday environments.
Things like infrared saunas, light therapy systems, and even hydrogen-based devices aren’t meant to replace nature.
They’re meant to recreate parts of it in a way that fits modern life.
Take infrared saunas, for example.
Unlike traditional steam saunas that rely on extremely high heat, infrared saunas use radiant heat that penetrates deeper into the body, while still feeling more tolerable.
So you’re getting the benefits without the same level of strain.
Everything Comes Back to the Cell
At the end of the day, all of this ties back to one idea:
Health starts at the cellular level.
Every improvement, better oxygenation, toxin removal, and improved circulation, ultimately affects how your cells function.
And when enough cells start functioning better, the effects build up.
More energy. Better recovery. Clearer thinking.
Not overnight. But gradually, and in a way that feels more sustainable.
There’s No One-Size-Fits-All Approach
One thing that came through clearly in this conversation is that there isn’t a single “right” way to approach wellness.
What works for one person might not work the same way for someone else.
That’s why tuning into your own body matters.
Energy levels, sleep patterns, stress responses, these aren’t just random fluctuations. They’re feedback.
And the more you pay attention to that feedback, the easier it becomes to figure out what actually helps.
A Different Way to Think About Health
It’s easy to assume that better health always requires something complicated or expensive.
But sometimes, it’s simpler than that.
Sometimes it’s about reconnecting with things that have always been there, light, movement, air, rest, and finding ways to bring them back into your routine.
Not perfectly. Just consistently.
Because in the end, the goal isn’t to chase every new trend.
It’s to create an environment where the body can actually do what it was designed to do.